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  EVA : I hate it. Have you, uh, read the paper from referencesTimnit Gebru: Stochastic Parrots?Sorry, I don’t know how to pronounce it, but I think it’s really dangerous to give it human characteristics. Because it’s not human and like, for example, what we have noticed with AI companies, like generative AI companies, like Stability AI. They keep telling us that it learns like a human, it is like a human and it’s magic and we don’t know how it works. And by talking about AI and that’s way, they shoved the responsibility of it to the AI and not to the people who built those systems. Well, now they’re getting sued left and right. So it’s not working properly, but it is not good to give something that is not human, it is not intelligence, to give it human characteristics. Sorry. I cannot pronounce that word. Um, I think it’s pretty dangerous.

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  EVA: That is ethical AI. So for example, do you know the artistreferencesAnna Rittler? She created the mosaique virus and she made pictures of like 10,000 tulips and she generated, made her own data set, and made our own art with that data set. And I think that is wonderful. And I don’t think that AI itself has a place… I think, it has a place in the art world, but I think we should look at it ethically and not that it takes advantage of your fellow colleagues. But I think you can do incredible things with AI, and I think that if done correctly, it can make wonderful conversations. Um, but with generative AI, I’m a bit hesitant.

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  EVA: Did you see what Grimes said? Like referencesGrimes, uh, licensed her work and then she got mad. I think that people were not giving her royalties or something like that.

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  AHNJILI: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Um, but yeah, which is also quite interesting because referencesT-Pain, I think released an app like a few years ago where you could use this autotune voice.And then I think…

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  DEREK: Yeah. And so if that’s the case, it’s like you either as a society, you say “Hey, that’s not allowed”. And you know, Italy did that for a little bit. It was like, oh, you can’t use ChatGPT. People are going to not be okay with that. And so, you have this competitive world where you can’t turn off the AI thing, right? And at the same time, it’s like, well, I broke all these laws, like how do you do? Well, you’re just gonna extract some massive flow of funding from these ultra-rich companies over, I mean we don’t know. So, I mean, I think it’s really important to be advocating for this, but it’s not gonna go… I really don’t think it’s gonna go away. I mean, sort of Jihad like literally, like I was in Dune, right. I mean, referencesDune was a book about Jihad against AI and it was like the post Jihad world where there were no more computers, but that's essentially like the optionality we have which is getting in the streets and stopping this.

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  EVA: There is a person’s behind making decisions on how these models work. referencesEmad Mushtaq, the CEO of Stability AI, he said that he want to pay people a subscription to use his models for a hundred euro per month for commercial use. And, um, like people say that for copyright is only for big corporations but it also is to protect small artists from corporations, that somebody doesn’t take my work and put it on the billboard without my consent. Uh, also copyright law is there to make sure that artists are not competing with their own work. So when the internet first came around, a friend of mine… I was too young by that time, but a friend of mine told me that he was an artist and people took his work and put it on his website. And he said, “well, this is a new thing, there’s nothing you can do about it and you’re just gonna laydown and your artist job is done”. Well, within a few years or less than a year I think, there were laws put in place that made sure that it couldn’t happen and I think what we are moving in direction is that AI systems that are trained without the consent of the makers will be some kind of pirated content in the future. I think it will not go away entirely but I think, uh, there will be laws put in place that companies cannot use it as freely as they are right now and that there’s gonna be fines if you use a dataset without the permission of the artist whose work is in there. That is what I see the direction is going.

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  AHNJILI: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, especially because yeah, I use the term multi-headed dragon because like transformers are driven by attention. referencesOne of the most important AI paper is called "attention is all you need", and each type of attention focuses on a different aspect of language. So when a dragon focuses on punctuation, another focuses on syntax, another will focus on god knows what. But I don't know if a multi-headed dragon is enough to encapsulate or to translate what AI is actually capable of doing.

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  DEREK: referencesSo one of my favorite places in Amsterdam is this embassy of the free mind, which is a library that collects all of these incredible old books from the Renaissance and early modern period. And there's a lot of esoteric magical works there, where people are really obsessed, I think in a really interesting and appropriate way, about the nature of intelligence, the nature of consciousness, the nature of being.And I like the sort of philosophical, provocation of our age and I think getting us to think more about the nature of intelligence is a good thing. Sometimes they say, “oh, well, you can’t really define intelligence”, but there’s a really great paper where they collect maybe like 120 different definitions of intelligence and they really do converge in a certain way, which is…

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  EVA: Yeah. I was at a event in Chicago, I was given a talk about AI and ethics and somebody asked me for how much money would I put my work into the dataset? And I said, I would not do that. Uh, and afterwards somebody was very mad at me and said “never say never, and you shouldn’t say those things because there are stockholders’ interest and they’re in this room and you should always keep a door open”. I was like, no, I don’t wanna do that like not only for a monetizable subject, but also a personal, I don’t want my work in a machine without my consent. Um, but it is exactly what you said, like legal and ethical are kind of words that they wanna avoid. But, uh, well, if you break laws and it is unethical that are not certain words you can avoid. I also, um, I don’t know if there is a good moment, but if there are creative people out there, artists that want to protect their art style, referencesI recommend using Glaze. That is a tool that can protect your style against AI image generators and some are next week… Nightshade is gonna be released and Nightshade is a tool that, like if you put on your artwork and somebody puts that in a dataset without your consent, it'll poison the dataset. So it'll protect your work, if somebody takes without your consent and I wanna make people aware of that because a lot of creative people don't want their work in there. So these are ways that artists can protect themselves from AI mimicry.

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  AHNJILI: I’ll just add one more small tip as well. referencesSo if you have a personal website, every website has a robots.txt. So OpenAI has offered two lines of code that you could just copy and paste into your website and they won't scrape your website.